Saturday, 22 March 2008

I thought this was about football...?

Well I was going to talk about the game today, but after reading the 'match thread' on 'red passion', I'm a bit annoyed to say the least.

Once again,. I get ripped into for doing the's a shame I wasn't actually doing it today though isn't it? Club Secretary, Geraint Parry covered the game for Wrexham World today, and had to put up with using a standard telephone line, which is not ideal for football commentary.

Also, it's stated on the Red Passion message board today details of a private conversation that myself and a member had concerning my commentaries, it's good to know that confidence can be broken on RP.

It is stated that I don't take too kindly to name calling, but when I was called 'a mumbling incoherent buffoon', I feel that it is my human right to be a little bit aggrieved by it.

I don't have to provide anything for Wrexham World, Wrexham AFC, of Radio Maelor, but I do for free in my spare time, just the same as Mark does. In fact, the Wrexham World broadcast is the Hospital Broadcast, so Wrexham fans are actually lucky to get this service, rather than Premium TV just using the BBC radio feed, like they do for so many other clubs.

I'll state again that the minute that Mark tells me that he's unhappy with what I provide for the hospital broadcast, then I'll step down, but I will not be bullied out of it be people on Red Passion who obviously need to grow up and do something with their lives.

Oh, as it's already been cited, and for those who are interested, here is the private message conversation that was had on Red Passion. Obviously, the first message is at the bottom.

Hello Rich

I guess we shall have to agree to disagree. I certainly haven't got a grudge against you, I don't even know you as a person.
I stand by the spirit of what I said, I can't understand what you say, though I can understand Mark.

The only solution in future I guess when you are commentating will be for me to switch to the oppostions commentary.

As before, I am sorry I caused you offence, a bit thoughtless of me, but I am sure you know how a lot of Wrexham fans feel at the moment.....frustrated. It must be worse for you, being at the 'pointy' end!!

Happy New year to you also

Originally Posted by wrexham till i die
Hi Paul,

Apology accepted for the name calling.

How does my admission that I'm not a play-by-play commentator jutify what you have said? The commentary I provided was not helped by the fact that the wind was blowing right across the stand and across the microphone.

Again, I must say that it only ever seems to be the same couple of people who ever complain. Where as other people can easily understand what is being said.

We always make recordings of the games, and we nearly always listen back to them either in full or in an edited down format. You saying to me that you're not happy is not going to stop me doing what I do. At the end of the day, if Mark wasn't happy with my efforts, then I certainly wouldn't still be doing it. However, Mark is very happy with what I have added to the broadcast.

The bosses at the radio station that I broadcast on in Warrington are very happy with me, as are the people that I write freelance for. It's only ever the couple of people on RP that have a problem with me...interesting that...

Anyway, that's that...I'll say no more.

Happy New Year to you and your family.

Kind regards
Rich Holmes

Originally Posted by
First of all, allow me to apologise for the inappropriate choice of words used in my post, borne out of frustration. There was no call for personal namecalling, so I hold my hands up on that.

However, I do stand by my comments that I found it nigh on impossible to understand anything that you said, and that also goes for the occasions when you summarise when Mark Griffiths does the commentary.

By all means continue with your efforts, though your admission that you are not a "play-by-play commentator" does somewhat justify my observations.

It is just an internat forum...... and nothing more (as you imply).

Like I said, I apologise for the ill chosen words. though you might consider making, and then playing back, a recording of your next endeavour and see whether you are happy with it?


Paul Cox

Maybe I'm just as bad for making that public, but I'm fed up of it all to be honest, there are more important things in life, and I have enough to deal with at the moment as it is.

Anyway, I'm off now to probably regret writing this. Oh well, it's not like I'm not used to abuse.

I look forward to Monday, and a vital three points for Wrexham


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